Today I talk with Rachelle Crawford of Abundant Life with Less, author of Messy Minimalism. Rachelle and I talk about how perfectionism can be debilitating on our road to a less cluttered life, and how we can move past it and define minimalism for ourselves. Forgive me for my technical difficulties in this interview, which you won't notice until the end. Our conversation was cut slightly short because of tech issues, but I also talk a little bit about what you missed in my recap at the end of the episode. Links: Rachelle on Instagram Rachelle's book, Messy Minimalism Desirae on Instagram Podcast Website Podcaster's Roadmap, my Podcasting Course Sponsor: Indeed: Get a $75 dollar sponsored job credit at indeed.com/intention We are extremely grateful for our sponosrs as they help the show go on! If they are relevant to you, show them some love by simply checking them out through our link and even using their products/services if they'd be of help to you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices