The Duke and Duchess of Sussex started 2020 with a bang, declaring their intention to step back from their roles as senior royals and carve out a different future.The early announcement prompted urgent negotiations with the royal family, with an initial deal thrashed out to give Prince Harry and Meghan the freedom they were looking for.The couple's plans are still forming, but the wheels are now very definitely in motion. So what is it like to make such a radical change to your career - and how do you make it a success? And what does entering the world of celebrity mean for the Sussexes' future?Pod Save The Queen host Ann Gripper (@anngripper) talks to career coach Paul Cope (@paul7cope), writer of The 7 Secrets to Change Your Career, Escape Your Prison and Build a Dream Life, about what it is like to live through such a turbulent time and how to come out on top.And she is joined again by Daily Mirror columnist Eva Simpson (@evamsimpson) who offers her take on the Sussexes' departure and what awaits them in celeb land.Join the conversation about the episode on Instagram and Twitter @podsave - and subscribe to the podcast to follow unfolding royal family news. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices