In this episode Mike and Mike recap their clinic experiences at PASIC and in Europe before discussing modern country drummer Travis McNabb, who recently pulled double duty touring with Sugarland and Frankie Ballard. The education segment focuses on how to build out your drumset to be as ergonomic as possible. Up for review is the Classic series stands from Tama. After fielding a few listener questions, the show concludes with picks of the week.   Show Notes Modern Drummer subscription MikesLessons.com subscription Mike D’s Patreon page Travis McNabb story Tama Classic Series Hardware Drumset Ergonomics, Part 6 Big Fat Snare Drum Quesadilla cloth mutes Sponsored by: Dream Cymbals and Gongs Modern Drummer Podcast With Mike and Mike is a show that explores the topics that drummers love the most. Sit in during weekly conversations between Modern Drummer managing editor, Mike Dawson, and MikesLessons.com founder and MD columnist, Mike Johnston, as they geek out on drumming technique, practice methods, and favorite exercises and offer insight on the latest gear and industry happenings. For additional episodes visit: moderndrummer.com/mikeandmikepodcast