Tami Simon speaks with Mark Nepo. Mark is a poet, philosopher, and spiritual teacher who is the author of numerous books and audio projects, including the New York Times #1 bestseller The Book of Awakening, which made the list of Oprah's Ultimate Favorite Things. With Sounds True, Mark has created an eight-session audio learning course called Staying Awake: The Ordinary Art. In this episode, Tami has an intimate conversation with Mark about the two most important lessons he has learned from his journey with cancer, the role of effort and grace in our lives, what it means to take "the exquisite risk," and how we can shift our perspective to see with the eyes of the heart. (73 minutes)