Skyrocketing costs this year have led to an increase in B.C.'s Living Wage to cover the high costs of rent, food and other essentials, Our guest is Anastasia French, Living Wage for Families BC provincial manager and co-author of the 2023 Living Wage report. In our second half, we discuss the use of artificial intelligence in the arts, including the new Beatles' song "Now and Then". Our guests are University of British Columbia PhD student Guanzhong Du, and Arne Eigenfeldt, Professor and Associate Dean of Simon Fraser University's Music and Sound program.