On the next two episodes, we sit down with the father and mother of celeb-reality television, real life couple Mark Cronin and Lisa Lopez, whose shows The Surreal Life, Flavor of Love, Rock of Love, and all their spin-offs dominated VH1 from 2003-2009. Now working on their latest creation, Bravo’s Below Deck, the pair indulge us in looking back and dishing dirt on casting and corralling volatile people, being friends with New York, and all the tawdry delights that they’ve given us throughout the years. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices