One of the first challenges facing the first chief executive of Whangarei's Hundertwasser Art Centre, will be to win the hearts and minds of the many people who've opposed the project from the start: Kathleen Drumm is now helming the 29-million dollar building project that will turn a design by the late artist and architect Frederick Hundertwasser into reality, and potentially rival the popular Kawakawa toilets as a tourist attraction. She left a career working in the film industry, most recently at the Toronto International Film Festival, to take up the job. Kathleen's Northland born and bred but has been away during the years of bitter debate about the Hundertwasser buliding and Wairau Maori Art Gallery that'll be housed in it. Lynn Freeman asks Kathleen how she plans to get people who've fought against the centre on side: