It’s January 2022. Demurely dressed, Kate Clanchy sits in the UnHerd studio, a platform that prides itself on ‘challenging the herd’. Why conservatives always try to frame themselves as courageous dissenters remains a mystery, but for now, it’s enough to know that they are all firmly rooting for Clanchy. Sat across from UnHerd’s executive editor, Freddie Sayers, Clanchy will pour her heart out to her white comrade in arms before it is uploaded to the platform’s YouTube as an exclusive. They will morosely ponder over how it seems like white people just can’t discuss people’s racialised physical features like they used to. These days, they come with pesky backlash and the instigation of online furores. Again and again, they will return to confusion. How could Kate Clanchy, a white woman with good intentions, have ended up here? This episode was written by Paula Akpan This is a Broccoli Production  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices