Tuesday night’s presidential debate contained a lot of crosstalk — overwhelmingly initiated by President Donald Trump biden-debate.html">interrupting Joe Biden — and not a lot of substance.

CNN analyst Juliette Kayyem told Boston Public Radio on Wednesday that despite the lack of policy discussion, the choice presented to voters is very clear.

“I don’t know what you were expecting, but we have two choices, there’s not a third choice like ‘I wish this would all go away’ on the ballot,” she said. “And on both substance and temperament, I think Biden did great actually and Trump did horribly.”

During the debate, when asked to condemn white supremacy, Trump refused, instead telling the far-right militia group known as the Proud Boys to “stand back and standby.”

“Everything from the overt racism, which I find liberating, rather than wondering what does he actually mean, to his inability to talk about any of his policy proposals beyond conservative judges and I have a healthcare plan read my twitter account.”

Juliette Kayyem is an analyst for CNN, former assistant secretary at the Department of Homeland Security and faculty chair of the homeland security program at Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government.