“The forces of darkness, the terrorists, know that education is a powerful change agent,” says former Australian Prime Minister  in this podcast about her commitment to global education. Ms. Gillard, now a distinguished fellow with the  at Brookings and chair of the Global Partnership for Education, discusses a variety of topics, including her path to becoming Australia’s 27th prime minister; overcoming barriers to achieving universal education; why quality of education matters as much, or more, than getting children into school; and what needs to be done in the post-2015 development agenda to achieve gender equity in education. Show Notes: - - - - -  Subscribe to the Brookings Cafeteria on , listen on , and send feedback email to .