In 2015, Jillian Anthony hired David Goldberg as her assistant editor at Time Out New York. In the years since, she served as T.O.'s editor-in-chief and as CultureTrip's Deputy Editorial Director (and hoofed a lot of the city with David). Now, Anthony curates, writes and edits the Cruel Summer Book Club, a newsletter about grief, heartbreak, and building community. She joins David to talk about Cruel Summer and their shared years in the city. You can subscribe to Cruel Summer via cruelsummerbookclub.substack.com, and follow Jillian @jillathrilla. And if you enjoyed this episode of the Luminaries, be sure to share/rate/subscribe for more excellent interviews, every Tuesday. You can follow David at davidgoldberg.online or @goldberghawn. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices