This week, Allie and Julia talk to Simpsons co-executive producer, Jeff Westbrook! Together, he regales them with his unconventional path to the writers room –  starting as an algorithms researcher, then a professor at Yale, then an engineer at AT&T Laboratories! We discuss his friendship and collaborations with Ken Keeler – finding his way from science to The Simpsons and crafting the voice of early Futurama. It's a must listen with one of the smartest "Are you SURE you didn't waste your life writing silly jokes?" guests we've ever had. 3 more episodes to go!

This episode was recorded remotely during quarantine. You might notice differing audio quality from previous episodes (this one sounds like a zoom call … because it is!) – but we’re trying to make it work for you! Heads up: Half way through the conversation Jeff's cat starts scratching a table and wall, you'll hear quite a bit of that.