Jacob Helberg (@jacobhelberg), foreign policy expert and author of The Wires of War, joins Lucas Bagno and Ian Cinnamon to discuss:- Why he says peace through trade was the biggest foreign policy miscalculation in US history.- How US companies have approached operating in China and why Jacob would advise them to proactively work to decouple themselves from the Chinese market.- Why Jacob would prefer that American laws change to restrict Chinese investments in US companies.- Why the Belt and Road Initiative has come to be seen as a debt trap.- What keeps him optimistic and what ordinary Americans can do if they are concerned about China.Thanks for listening — if you like what you hear, please review us on your favorite podcast platform. Check us out on the web at
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