Six months into its escalation of war with Ukraine, the calls to declare Russia a state sponsor of terror have never been louder. Delaney Simon from the International Crisis Group makes the case against doing so and Kira Rudyk, a member of Ukraine's parliament, says the United States has nothing to lose.
This episode was produced by Jon Ehrens, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Efim Shapiro, and hosted by Sean Rameswaram, who also edited.
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