China faces criticism from many who perceive its actions as adversarial to the global economic order. At the same time, globalization helped lift 800 million Chinese out of poverty. What can we glean about Beijing’s approach to that order?

Wang Huiyao, the founder and director of Center for China and Globalization, joins host David Dollar to discuss China’s economic development over recent decades and its evolving role in multilateral organizations like the World Bank, Asian Development Bank, and World Trade Organization. Their conversation also touches on Washington’s criticisms of Chinese trade practices today, how they affect the U.S.-China trade war, and the prospects of China making meaningful reforms.

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