Glen Lakin is more than a mere podcast host. He’s also a screenwriter whose first movie — Being Frank, starring Jim Gaffigan and Logan Miller — opens in theaters today, June 14, in Los Angeles and New York. (More cities to follow, don’t worry.) Yes, we’re using this podcast to let Glen talk about his movie, but take solace in the fact that Drew had to twist his arm to do it. This short promotional interview has Glen talking about how he came up with this story about a suburban dad’s second family and how it might relate to the wacky situations of sitcoms past.

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