Mabel O. Wilson in Conversation with Abraham Murrell. In this podcast episode, recent graduate Abraham Murrell speaks with Professor Mabel O. Wilson. GSAPP recently commissioned a group of alumni to report on the current state of internships in the architecture profession. This is our second podcast to explore this theme in more depth, following a conversation between Violet Whitney and James Brillon. Professor Wilson discusses her early career path and experience as a MARCH graduate. She also interprets inequity issues within the profession and identifies social, institutional, economical, and historical causes. Mabel Wilson (’91 MARCH) is the Nancy and George Rupp Professor of Architecture, Planning and Preservation at GSAPP, a Professor in African American and African Diasporic Studies, and the Associate Director of the Institute for Research in African American Studies (IRAAS) at Columbia University. At GSAPP she also co-directs the Global Africa Lab. The full text of the Internships and the Architectural Profession report can be read on GSAPP's website.