We often hear that emotions such as joy are cultivated within, but for designer Ingrid Fetell Lee, there is a strong possibility that it can be found in our surroundings.  In this conversation, we talk about the aspects of joy that are challenged now but why it’s more valuable than ever, finding ways to zoom out, the relationship between joy and resilience, planning what’s important but giving yourself permission to be flexible, why sometimes we just aren’t ready yet, surprise, and allowing for the rise and fall of joy and sorrow. 

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