Hellooooo! Happy Thursday, lovely Shameless listeners! Today we’re sitting down with Abbie Chatfield - the 24-year-old runner up on this year’s season of The Bachelor. We wouldn’t hop on a plane to Brisbane for just any Bachelor contestant; but we did for Abbie because we think her time in the public eye has been fascinating. Abbie is considered one of the most controversial Bachelor contestants in history for one, curious reason: Abbie likes talking about sex. In this chat, we talk a lot about shame: why and how the media deploys it against women and the unique power in rejecting it. If you loved this interview, follow Abbie on Instagram @abbiechatfield. Thank you to our sponsor Moscato One for making today's episode possible. Find out more about Moscato One here and use our code 'SHAMELESS' at checkout for 20% off the new range. Want more? You’re only human. Join our glorious Shameless Facebook community here, where thousands of like-minded ladies keep each other up to date with the latest celebrity and pop culture stories. Or if Facebook isn't your thing why don't you chuck us a follow on Instagram here instead? We know you didn't ask, but yes of course we have a weekly newsletter! So glad you asked. You can subscribe to it here for recommendations, columns and more super fun things (yes, we clickbaited you and we don't regret a thing. NOT A DAMN THING). Shameless Podcast is very much an independent vehicle that runs on the support of our incredible listeners - that's you! So, if you’d like to support the show, we would like that very much. Hit ‘subscribe’ on Apple Podcasts or ‘follow’ on Spotify, and leave a review if you’re feeling especially generous. Then sit back and bask in our eternal, abundant love. Your hosts are Zara McDonald (@zamcdonald) and Michelle Andrews (@michelleandrews1). Shameless is a production of Shameless Media.