Mike Isikoff and Dan Klaidman are again joined by Yahoo News reporter Jon Ward, as well as Gary Abernathy, a Trump apologist and occasional Washington Post columnist, to discuss the defense offered by Trump's legal team on Day 4 of his second impeachment trial. They discuss the political future of Trump — and of Trumpism — on the precipice of a possible second acquittal.

GUESTS:

• Gary Abernathy (@AbernathyGary), Contributing Columnist, Washington Post
• Jon Ward (@jonward11), Senior Political Correspondent, Yahoo News

HOSTS:

• Michael Isikoff (@Isikoff), Chief Investigative Correspondent, Yahoo News
• Dan Klaidman (@dklaidman), Editor in Chief, Yahoo News

RESOURCES:

• Impeachment audio, span.org/impeachment/">C-SPAN
• lawyers-dismiss-context-of-january-6-insurrection-to-claim-trumps-innocence-000112661.html">"Trump lawyers dismiss context of Jan. 6 insurrection to claim Trump's innocence" by Jon Ward, Yahoo News (Feb. 12, 2021)
• "You can disavow Trump without apologizing for his presidency" by Gary Abernathy, Washington Post (Feb. 2, 2021)
• "Nikki Haley's Time for Choosing" by Tim Alberta, Politico

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