Zandvoort promised much, and delivered pretty pictures, orange fog and racing boredom. But Verstappen won, so yay the Dutch GP? Cheeka, Phill and Terry ask where it all went wrong, reminisce about Cheeka’s wedding, and talk about the new driver deals, including a great speculation about Alex Albon going to Williams that we then cut because it’s out of date now. Unlucky. We have a newsletter, released the Monday(ish) after each race. Subscribe here: ff1s.com/newsnewsnews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices