E133 - Imagine realizing deep into your marriage, your typical husband-wife marriage with kids, that you are seeking a deeper connection. Imagine making that connection with someone who happens to be your same sex. Imagine falling in love. What would you do? How would you handle your feelings and the decisions you make? What's next? Hear the story of Stephanie Smith and Michele Baker, later in life loves (so many L-words!), and how they are managing their new path together, their families, and their thoughts on pride. They tell their Glennon Doyle and Abby Wombach meetup story, the one in which Joelle mixes up her lesbians! And not only do they answer our questions about religion and community, but graciously our questions about the physicality of it all. We even dish on our own experiences! They offer advice to those in a similar situation and paint a picture of what life can be like outside the closet. Thank you to our wonderful guests for sharing their brave stories. This is a heartfelt and fun talk that we hope you'll hear and pass along. Love is love, and the world needs a lot more love and understanding right now! Michele can be reached via her wonderful public relations and communications company https://www.MamboComm.com, where authenticity and core values are key to strategy. And Stephanie can be found via Joelle because they've been friends forever! Find Michele Baker at https://www.MamboComm.com Glennon Doyle's story in her book Untamed https://www.amazon.com/Glennon-Doyle/e/B073C6SQY1 LGBTQ+ Resources at https://TheSafeZoneProject.com A Google search of “[city name] LGBTQ+ center” will bring up any center if your closest city has one, and by visiting, you can make connections with members of the community. Facebook Groups to search: https://www.Facebook.com/Groups/ If you or someone you know is at risk, call an LGBTQ+ crisis hotline like LGBT National Hotline at 888-843-4564 Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/RXKK-4Opplc Outline 00:00 - Introductions 02:00 - Pride 04:42 - Stephanie's story 12:47 - Dream Dinners mouseandweens99 14:24 - Michele's story 27:58 - Who is Glennon? 30:20 - When Steph and Michele met 32:45 - Coming Out 37:20 - Glennon and Abby meetup 40:39 - Coming Out, continued 49:12 - Political, social, religious thoughts 58:46 - Physical stuff, advice 1:04:53 - Stereotypes and labels 1:07:42 - Mambo Communications strategy 1:10:02 - Our experiences 1:12:52 - Jealousy and their relationship now Thank you to our amazing patrons - our family!!! Join the fun, get free swag and bonus content, including episode 131, not released anywhere else! https://www.patreon.com/mouseandweens Credits: "Mouse and Weens Theme" song by Julianne Eggold https://www.julianneeggold.com "Thank You Song For Subscribing" by Julianne Eggold and Dan Mahony Voice actor: Matt Thompson Promo: When the Bill Comes Due https://www.WhenTheBillComesDue.com Our network: Podfix https://podfixnetwork.com Sponsor: Dream Dinners! Get your life back at dinner time. Quickly make homemade meals and have more quality time for you and your family! Please try this out. Dream Dinners is nationwide. It really has taken the stress out of dinner time! If within 25 miles of the Poway or San Marcos locations, choose pickup or delivery and MOUSEANDWEENS99 for $99 off your first order! Visit link on https://www.mouseandweens.com Thank you so much for watching and listening. Please follow & subscribe! We are on all the socials @mouseandweens everywhere! Click here for links: https://linktr.ee/mouseandweens Email: mouseandweens@gmail.com Show voicemail: (858) 206-8746