You do not want to miss this riveting conversation between Andy and The Atlantic's Ed Yong, the journalist Andy thinks has done the best job writing about and analyzing the pandemic. They discuss America's failed response, how this whole thing might end, and why wanting things to go back to "normal" isn't the right mindset. 

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Check out these resources from today’s episode: 

• Pre-order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response, here: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 
• Read all of Ed Yong’s COVID-19 reporting in The Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/author/ed-yong/
• Check out The New York Times piece “The Pandemic in Six-Word Memoirs” Ed mentions in today’s show: pandemic-poetry-memoirs.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/11/opinion/coronavirus-pandemic-poetry-memoirs.html
• Read the paper Ed talks about by historian Howard P. Segal on “America as Techno-Fix Nation”: https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.5325/utopianstudies.28.2.0231

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