This week host Sarah Ladislaw invites Rachel Kyte to discuss the importance of framing climate change to help understand the different challenges and solutions. They discuss impacts from Covid-19, the scale of the disruption, difficulty in crafting a response plan, and how to make sure the response is cleaner and sustainable. Rachel stresses the need of both bottom up and top down changes across the global economy. Rachel Kyte is the dean of The Fletcher School at Tufts University. Previously, Rachel was special representative of the UN secretary-general and CEO with Sustainable Energy for All, and former Vice President and Special Envoy for Climate Change at the World Bank.