Dr. Bob talks about the importance of leadership, whether it's during a pandemic or a flight that's lost all engine power, with Captain Chesley "Sully" Sullenberger. The parallels between the two might not seem obvious, but Sully points out that the basic elements of good leadership can be applied in any situation. He also talks about how he and the crew landed Flight 1549 safely in the Hudson River, what lessons he took from that famous flight, and what caused him to speak out against what he calls a "vacuum of leadership" during the pandemic. Plus, what it's like to have Tom Hanks play you in a movie.

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Check out these resources from today’s episode: 

• Listen to the full audio from inside the cockpit of Flight 1549 as it was going down in the Hudson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdHW8_1Svc4 
• Check out Sully’s 2018 Washington Post op-ed, urging Americans to vote for leaders who will “protect us all:” https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-saved-155-lives-on-the-hudson-now-lets-vote-for-leaders-wholl-protect-us-all/2018/10/29/554fd0e6-d87c-11e8-a10f-b51546b10756_story.html 
• Learn more about the Biden administration’s new COVID-19 travel safety measures, requiring face coverings on planes: https://www.npr.org/2021/01/21/959398694/no-mask-no-fly-biden-signs-order-requiring-face-coverings-on-planes 
• Keep up with all of Sully’s work, including recent blog posts on leadership during COVID-19, at his website: http://www.sullysullenberger.com/ 
• Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/ 

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