This week Natalie talks to Lindsay Goldwert, the editor in chief of the online love and money magazine Money Date and author of Bow Down: Lessons from Dominatrixes on How to Get Everything You Want They discuss how the government has left it up to civilians to keep local businesses alive with reduced or no income, calculated measured risk vs being a blatant asshole, New York trauma, covid weddings, all the things that we were going to do that didn’t happen, and It is not a good time for unemployed creatives. We are not alone.