Sarah-Jane Mee is joined by Sir David Nicholson, who used to run the NHS in England, as they explore ‘How to fix the NHS’ - a new mini podcast series for 2024 from the Sky News Daily. This time, Sarah-Jane and Sir David tackle the issue of mental health and a growing demand on services – particularly among children. Before the pandemic, one in nine children needed help with their mental health but now, one in six are trying to access services. They’re joined by Dr Sarah Hughes, CEO of the charity Mind, discuss why they believe “it’s not about throwing money at the crisis end of the spectrum” - and how early intervention could provide more significant results. Senior podcast producer: Annie Joyce Interviews producer: Melissa Tutesigensi-Charles Health producer: Mark Thompson Editor: Paul Stanworth