Dr. Maddy Ellberger is a CBT and DBT therapist and professor at Columbia University. She joins the show to discuss DBT (dialectical behavioral therapy) and how to use its principles to change emotions via changing behaviors. She has actionable tips on how to interrupt thoughts and behaviors, take opposite actions, and explains the usefulness of having a Distress Tolerance List. She also tells us why we should reevaluate our expectations in both therapy and in life, what mindfulness really looks like, how to process trauma, and what happiness really is.

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