In this episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins speaks with director C.J. Obasi and Cinematographer Lílis Soares about the film, Mami Wata. They explain their shared vision in creating a film about people of color. They also share how they dealt with challenges like filming the ocean at night and losing almost three weeks of shooting time. Mami Wata premiered at the 2023 Sundance Film Festival where it won the World Cinema Dramatic Special Jury Award for Cinematography. In this episode we talk about: Their intention to shoot a black and white film from day one Wanting to show the value and beauty of people of color in this film Being ghosted by the equipment provider on the first day of shooting Filming for 24 days instead of 6 weeks Not wanting too many shades of gray Treating the ocean as another character How Africans see themselves and portray themselves in film Leveraging an empathetic gaze versus a sympathetic gaze Why being patient is key to being in this industry Memorable Quotes “It’s a story of sisterhood. It’s a story of mortality versus spirituality. It’s also a story about what it means to be African.” [3:43] “The eyes of the ocean are everywhere.” [26:41] “I wanted to do something deeper…something that had more meaning.” [34:34] “It’s like trying to figure out a jigsaw. When you find that one jigsaw, all the pieces make sense.” [35:38] Resources: Find CJ on Instagram Find Lílis on Instagram Mami Wata Movie Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web https://nofilmschool.com/ Facebook  https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool Twitter  https://twitter.com/nofilmschool YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschool Instagram https://www.instagram.com/nofilmschool Get your questions answered on the podcast by emailing editor@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices