C.Thi Nguyen, Ph.D. is a philosophy professor at the University of Utah and author of the book Games: Agency as Art, which was awarded the American Philosophical Association’s Book Prize. His work examines games as an art form —specifically, their role in communicating different forms of societal agency. He and Eileen discuss how our social structures and technologies shape how we think and what we value, including everything from games, social media, porn and echo chambers.