Some people just know if they want to grow up to have kids. And there are those who never want to entertain the idea. And then, there are some people who are strictly, truly, exactly on the fence about parenthood. The Cut host Avery Trufelman is one of the undecided people, and this week she collaborates with Anna Sale, a mother and the host of the podcast Death, Sex, and Money. Together, they explore the decision whether or not to have children, and how it balances with creative ambition. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices