5 Live's Naga Munchetty has been speaking to Col, Marie and Thelma (not their real names), who have 12 children in the care system. They've been helped by projects run by Pause charity which works with women who have had multiple children taken away. The women agree to take a long-acting contraceptive and get intensive help for their own problems. If you've been affected by any of the issues raised in this article, you can find support and advice at bbc.co.uk/actionline.