Emily Roland, co-chief investment strategist at John Hancock Investment Management thinks the current protracted economic cycle "will end the same way that almost every cycle has," with high interest rates triggering trouble before rate cuts and a downturn that resets the market and repositions it for growth. Roland is hopeful the economy can avoid a hard landing — and she notes that heightened government spending that has helped the current economy could keep it going longer — but says she is watching for when initial jobless claims start to rise, because that will be the signal to get defensive, and while she says it could happen soon, it could extend as far out as 2026. Justin Conway, vice president of investment partnerships at Calvert Impact talks about Community Investment Notes — and specifically the new Cut Carbon Notes — as a way of diversifying income while supporting underserved communities. Cassandra Happe discusses WalletHub's 2024 Credit Card Rewards Survey, which showed that more than 60 percent of Americans think that card bonuses encourage overspending, but where nearly 4 in 5 respondents said that higher inflation has made them more interested in earning credit-card rewards. Plus, Chuck answers a listener's question about the impact and benefits of diversifying into a fund that owns popular stocks when you already hold those companies through index funds.