This is the fifth of five special episodes in a takeover of the Brookings Cafeteria podcast by the  at Brookings, a multi-year endeavor drawing on expertise from across the Institution. In this series, , a David M. Rubenstein Fellow in Foreign Policy, speaks with experts about a range of issues related to Global China. In this episode, she speaks with Leah Dreyfuss and Mara Karlin, co-authors of the paper, "All that Xi wants: China attempts to ace bases overseas," in which they explore how China expands its interests abroad through infrastructure projects as well as military bases. Dreyfuss is associate director of Security and Strategy at Brookings; Karlin is a nonresident senior fellow in Security and Strategy. Subscribe to Brookings podcasts  or , send feedback email to , and follow us and tweet us at  on Twitter. The Brookings Cafeteria is part of the .