Food Network’s Giada De Laurentiis tells us about the importance of moderation, her hatred of cauliflower rice, and her initial reluctance to go on TV. Plus, we hear about how a beer archeologist revives ales from antiquity, discover how a wine opener can be a symbol of your mortality and learn to make a recipe for the Venetian dish of rice and peas known as risi e bisi. 

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