Richard is joined by Charles Turner, aka VaderVanOdin, aka Really Genuinely Great Guy to talk through time about his own special relationship with cardboard and lead and the beloved Games Workshop.

We delve into sibling rivalry and Heroquest before jumping into his current passion for Talisman and we once again curse Bryan Wade for having to be that guy. We talk about games Vader would like to play and games he would like to give a kick as well.

It's an excellent chat and Charles was an excellent guest and I emplore you to go follow him on Twitter www.twitter.com/vadervanodin and subscribe to his excellent youtube channel www.youtube.com/vadervanodin as well as listen to him on www.twitter.com/darkinsight

Looks as these wonderful show notes!! - (Charles did these)

We spoke about most of these -

Hero QuestSpace Hulk / Space Crusade!!Some war game between orcs and dwarfsWar hammer 40KTalismanBlood BowlD & D - we did not mention this.MagicMore recent games Vader has playedcatanTalismanBoss Monsters 2Minecraft card gameQwentYugiohTicket to rideVader Wants to getDungeon Saga - saga-the-dwarf-kings-quest.htmlGive">http://www.manticgames.com/games/dungeon-saga-the-dwarf-kings-quest.htmlGive it a kickBlood Manor http://www.bloodmanorgame.com/ Legends Untold http://www.inspiringgames.com/

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