After 3 years, and almost 6000 submissions the Royal Commission into Defence and Veteran Suicide was handed down to Parliament yesterday.The final report had 122 recommendations.

Kat Rae and Julie-Ann Finney told RN Breakfast they want to see action to set up of a body to improve the understanding of deaths by suicide start "right away".

Julie-Ann Finney says "lived experience will tell you what needs to be done", not "voices of the past" and the "old guard."

• Guest: Julie-Ann Finney, her son David was an ex-navy officer he took his own life in 2019Kat Rae, military veteran; her husband Andrew was a military veterans who died from suicide in 2017
• Producer: Matt Simpson    

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