My guest today is my friend Peng Zhong, the CEO of Tendermint. Peng has a background in interaction design and front-end engineering, he focuses on guiding blockchain technology across the chasm to the mainstream. Tendermint is a core contributor to the Cosmos Network and they are building some of the most powerful tools for distributed networks. Cosmos is an ever-expanding ecosystem of interoperable and sovereign blockchain apps and services, built for a decentralized future. At Tendermint, Peng mentors an incredible team that builds tools that improve the UX of blockchain for both developers and end-users. He also advises founders on building sustainable blockchain businesses.We do a deep dive into Cosmos and Cosmosland. In our conversation, we cover L1 maximalism vs pluralism, the importance of interoperability and recent launch of the IBC on Cosmos Hub, and how crypto has found product market fit and it's about scaling. I hope you enjoy my conversation with Peng Zhong. ––– YIELD With a market so new and so powerful, it goes without saying that investment opportunities are everywhere, with sometimes the potential for astonishing returns. Yield filters through all defi investments, consolidated gas fees, and only invests in a select few to generate up to 20% APY, which more than double what you could earn from the top lending services in the space. Check them out at https://on.yield.app/charlie ––– COSMOS Visit Cosmos to learn about the Cosmos Hub and how it's the port city for blockchains across the world. Cosmos can bridge the siloed blockchains, like Bitcoin and Ethereum, to ensure your liquidity on any chain can be used anywhere. Find new staking opportunities and applications, or build your own, at cosmos.network ––– Paraswap If you want to make a swap at the best price across the DeFi market, check out paraswap.io/untold-stories. ParaSwap’s state-of-the-art algorithm beats the market price across all major DEXs and brings you the most optimized swaps with the best prices, and lowest slippage.  *terms and conditions apply ––– This podcast is powered by BlockWorks Group. For exclusive content and events that provide insights into the crypto and blockchain space, visit them at https://blockworks.co