In Europe, there is talk of "Trump-proofing": buttressing alliances, on-shoring support for Ukraine, and building up the continent’s military and defense capabilities. Debates about Trump's right-wing authoritarianism echo similar tensions in France, where Marine Le Pen's National Rally Party performed strongly in July parliamentary elections. Benjamin Haddad, France’s Minister Delegate for European affairs, joins the show to discuss.  Also on today's show: actors Francesca Faridany and Norbert Leo Butz talk about their new Putin play, "Vladimir"; Ukrainian tennis player Elina Svitolina; political science professor Robert Pape  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices