On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen sit down with one of Jen’s best friends, Jason Abel. Jason starts by telling embarrassing stories about Jen from growing up, which you don't want to miss. Then, Jason shares his story of coming out as a gay man at age 24 to Jen - the first person that he told. He explains his thought process in telling Jen, how he told his parents, their reactions, and the expectations he - and many others - had/have before doing so. We hear about Jason's dating and relationship experiences, discuss the differences in talking about sex and sexual compatibility as a gay man vs. a straight woman, society's expectations, and the things we can work to unlearn. At the end of the episode, Jason shares the advice he would give to his younger self, followed by a rapid fire interview of Em & Jen with some thought provoking questions for them! 0:25 - Intro 0:33 - How Jen & Jason know each other  6:20 - The story of Jen being the first person Jason came out to 17:40 - Telling his family 31:20 - Starting to date men & his first relationships 39:17 - Calling BS 43:04 - Advice Jason would give to his younger self 46:14 - Rapid fire questions Jason has for Em & Jen If you want to watch ShrinkChicks episodes on YouTube, you can find our channel here! https://youtube.com/channel/UCrxuhDqoL4ML3UE8b2J2BBg Thanks to this week's sponsors for supporting ShrinkChicks! We have these exclusive offers for our listeners: Nutrafol: Go to nutrafol.com and use the promo code SHRINK to save fifteen dollars off your first month’s subscription plus free shipping! Zocdoc: Go to zocdoc.com/shrinks and download the ZocDoc app to sign-up for FREE and book a top-rated doctor. Many are available as soon as today! Quip: Quip has completely changed the toothbrushing game! Go to getquip.com/shrink to get your first refill for FREE!