John and Joseph discuss why simple songs have to be perfect and how our experience of a place will always be subjective. Amanda Palmer joins to talk about feeling compelled to finish books and recording her cover of "The Mess Inside" in an empty greenhouse.

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Amanda Palmer's video for “The Mess Inside” will be released in the first week of February. To find out about it first and get access to tons of Amanda's art and to play an active role in helping her to create it, join her Patreon! More info at: patreon.com/amandapalmer I Only Listen to the Mountain Goats t-shirts and tote bags now available.

Learn more about John Darnielle’s two novels here. Listen to more music by the Mountain Goats, including their latest album Goths, goats.com">here.

Check out Joseph Fink’s other shows, Welcome to Night Vale and Alice Isn’t Dead. His second novel with Jeffrey Cranor, It Devours!, is out now.

Credits: Joseph Fink (host), John Darnielle (host), Christy Gressman (producer), Grant Stewart (editor), Vincent Cacchione (mixer), Rob Wilson (logo). Produced by Night Vale Presents in collaboration with Merge Records and the Mountain Goats. http://ionlylistentothemountaingoats.com http://www.nightvalepresents.com