Because two generations of Wagners allegedly committed mass murder and a third—the two great-grandmothers—was charged with obstructing justice and perjury, and the motive was custody of a fourth generation, journalist David Raterman now wants to learn about the great-grandmothers. Angela’s mom, who has worked blue-collar jobs and been a strong family woman, seems typical for the area. But Billy’s mom is the largest landowner in Pike County, and she operates a prestigious horse farm whose animals have won awards all over the US. How did she and her now deceased husband start their land and animal empire? Interviews with family insiders and court records provide surprising and colorful insight. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices