Seyward Darby is the editor-in-chief of The Atavist Magazine and the author of Sisters in Hate: American Women on the Front Lines of White Nationalism.“The most enlightening thing I learned in working on this book ultimately was that when we think of hate we think of animosity. Hate means I do not like someone or I do not like something. I deplore it. I despise it. But hate as a movement is actually a lot more like any social movement where it’s providing something to its supporters, members, acolytes that they were seeking but didn’t necessarily know where they were going to find it. So it could be camaraderie, it could be power, it could be purpose, in some cases it could be money. There’s something terrifyingly mundane about that.” Thanks to Mailchimp for sponsoring this week's episode. Show notes:   The Mastermind Chronicles of Now @seywarddarby seywarddarby.com 3:15 "White Supremacy Was Her World. And Then She Left." (New York Times • 2020) 8:00 A Voice of Hate in America’s Heartland (New York Times • 2017) 8:45 The Rise of the Valkyries (Harpers • 2017) 20:00 Longform Podcast #362: Andrew Marantz 30:15 The History of White People (Nell Irvin Painter • W. W. Norton & Company • 2011) 32:45 Longform Podcast #395: Wesley Lowery 43:15 Duke Lacrosse Case 50:00 The Duke Lacrosse Scandal and the Birth of the Alt-Right (New York Magazine • 2017)   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices