In this fourth episode of the Berlin Policy Journal Podcast, we look at the idea of “Frenemies” in foreign policy. The term “Frenemies” sounds contemporary, but it’s actually about 70 years old, and was first coined as a comment on US-Russian relations. The “World of Frenemies” is explored in the newest edition of the Berlin Policy Journal, available in our app and online at berlinpolicyjournal.com. For the podcast, host and Berlin Policy Journal executive editor Henning Hoff speaks first with Jörg Lau, foreign editor of weekly DIE ZEIT, who presents the lay of the Frenemies landscape from a German perspective. Then, we broaden our view to explore a Frenemy a bit further from home. Some critics say Europeans are underestimating the threat from China. This view is becoming more pressing as the country is poised to take a leading role in developing the 5G mobile network technology in Germany. To decode this, we’re joined by Janka Oertel, Asia Director at the European Council on Foreign Relations, or ECFR. Finally, we receive a New Silk Road audio postcard from our correspondent Jacob Mardell, who is traveling from Brussels and Beijing and back to document China’s massive Belt and Road initiative that links the Eurasian super-continent. ------------------------ The Berlin Policy Journal is a bi-monthly digital magazine on European affairs, edited in Germany’s capital and published by the German Council on Foreign Relations (DGAP). It’s the sister publication of Internationale Politik, Germany’s leading foreign affairs magazine.   You can read the Berlin Policy Journal on our website https://berlinpolicyjournal.com/ or receive it free of charge via our app for Android and iOS devices.   Contact us with questions or suggestions: podcast@berlinpolicyjournal.com