Mara Hvistendahl is a freelance reporter and was a Pulitzer Prize finalist for her first book, Unnatural Selection. Her new book is The Scientist and the Spy: A True Story of China, the FBI, and Industrial Espionage. “In times of tension, Cold War historians believe that there’s this mirroring that goes on, that we start to behave like the enemy, and that that is the big risk. And I feel like that’s the moment we’re in now.” Thanks to Mailchimp and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode. @MaraHvistendahl marahvistendahl.com Hvistendahl on Longform The Scientist and the Spy excerpt [00:45] The Scientist and the Spy: A True Story of China, the FBI, and Industrial Espionage (Mara Hvistendahl • Riverhead • 2020) [04:20] "Some People Just Smell Like Republicans" (Village Voice • Sep 2004) [09:36] "Rich Pickings" (Financial Times • Nov 2007) [10:42] Hvistendahl's archive at Science [15:20] "Half the Sky: How China’s Gender Imbalance Threatens Its Future" (Virginia Quarterly Review • Fall 2008) [15:20] "Can AI Escape Our Control and Destroy Us?" (Popular Science • May 2019) [16:42] "Meet the Flat-Earthers of the Modern Era" (Popular Science • Oct 2019) [16:44] "Inside China's Vast New Experiment in Social Ranking" (Wired • Dec 2017) [22:33] "The FBI’s China Obsession" (The Intercept • Feb 2020) [25:37] North by Northwest (1959) [30:20] "Some True Information is Impossible to Censor" (Matter • Oct 2014) [41:12] "‘If You Want to Kill Someone, We Are the Right Guys’" (Wired • April 2019) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices