Disclaimer: Explicit! We talk about some weird stuff too, so please know that this is all in good fun and we love everyone, especially our guest!

WDB: The Lost files! Katie & Cathy sat down for a fun evening with Lucia, a sales rep for Sociable Cider Werks back in February right before Mardi Gras.  Since then Katie procrastinated, then the file was lost, then it was corrupted, then every time she tried to edit it, the file would corrupt again.  So here it is, in all it's glory, a 2.5 hour interview where we cover Beef with our sister podcast Drink In Geek Out, where Gordon Ramsey can put his beef (definitely in our lasagna) and of course how awesome Lucia is and her cidery home.