The 2020 tennis off-season has begun, but we don't have a very confident idea just how long it will be before the 2021 season begins, with the Australian Open having to navigate a complex landscape in a place that has stood out during the pandemic for its success.

To help explain the context of the conversation about holding a major event in COVID-free Melbourne, Ben is joined by the Australian Broadcasting Corporation's Tim Callanan to discuss the journey Melbourne and Victoria have been on, and the road ahead from here.

Is the Australian Open the reward Melbourne has earned, or a risk it can't afford? And can tennis players be trusted?

(Apologies for the intermittent crackling on Tim's connection; he's coming to us from quite a ways away.)

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