As Theresa May faces growing pressure to lay down the law when she meets EU officials in Brussels, Chopper's Brexit Podcast hosts a 'No Deal' special.  Christopher Hope is joined in the Red Lion pub by Charlie Elphicke, the treasurer of the influential European Research Group of Conservative MPs, and Chris Bryant, Labour's former Minister of State for Europe, to debate whether Britain can thrive leaving the European Union without any deal. And economist Andrew Lillico discusses the possibility of Britain joining the North American Free Trade Agreement after Brexit. Also on the podcast Chopper speaks to Grant Shapps, the former Tory party chairman, in his first broadcast interview since being accused of being the ringleader of a plot to unseat Mrs May. Joining the podcast team are The Telegraph's Deputy Political Editor, Steven Swinford, who has been tracking the negotiations all week, and Dia Chakravarty, the Telegraph’s Brexit editor, reporting on the latest good news to emerge '#DespiteBrexit’. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.