Robert Waggoner is one of the foremost lucid dreamers on the planet. He is former President of the International Association for the Study of Dreams (IASD). For the past ten years, he has been the co-editor of the online magazine, The Lucid Dreaming Experience, the only ongoing publication devoted specifically to lucid dreaming. A lucid dreamer since 1975, he has logged more than 1,000 lucid dreams. Robert frequently speaks on lucid dreaming at national and international dream conferences, workshops and college classrooms, like Sonoma State University, Iowa State University, University of Washington, University of Michigan-Ann Arbor and Evergreen State College. Robert has been interviewed by CNN, CBS News and ABC News (KABC - Los Angeles) about the practice of lucid dreaming. His comments have appeared in media as diverse as DETAILS ,The Huffington Post, Pittsburgh Post Gazette, Popular Science and Brides magazine. During 2009-2010, he had a regular Iowa Public Radio show,discussing dreams and lucid dreams, and spoke with Utne Reader in 2015. In this conversation we discuss in-depth the state of lucid dreaming and all of it's variations.