This week we've got two conversations covering different elements of gender and sport. First up is Jackie Silva, 3x Olympian and gold medalist in beach volleyball, who is a driving force behind the #LetHerRun movement. This movement supports those women, including Caster Semenya and Dutee Chand, who've had their athletic careers cut short because they were deemed "not woman enough." Jackie talks with us about the irony of what these athletes would have to do in order to be allowed to compete again, and her own experiences with gender testing at the Olympics.

Next we talk with Paralympian Ness Murby, a para discus thrower, who recently came out as trans-masculine. During our conversation about the gender spectrum and athletes who are in various places on it, Ness talks about their own journey and why the sporting community should start discussing the gender spectrum. They also break Jill's brain in the process.

Plus, the International Olympic Committee's Executive Board has finalized and approved the event program for Paris 2024! What sports and events are in, and what's out? We've got the details (spoiler alert: it involves breakdancing)!

And, always the question with an IOC press conference: Did TBach wave good-bye? Listen to find out!

Follow Jackie on Insta and the #LetHerRun movement on Twitter.

Follow Ness on Insta and Twitter and check out their website TougherThan.com.

Our TKFLASTAN Update includes news from:

• Speedskater Erin Jackson
• Snowboarder Chloe Kim
• The dulcet tones of Jason Bryant
• Sports historian Dr. Victoria Jackson
• Biathlete Clare Egan
• Olympic travel expert Ken Hanscom

We also have Games Updates from Tokyo 2020, Beijing 2022, and Paris 2024.

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 Keep the Flame Alive: The Podcast for Fans of the Olympics and Paralympics with hosts Jill Jaracz & Alison Brown

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